My opinions on Covid-19
Background
SARS-COV-2 is the virus. Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome - CoronaVirus - #2.
COVID-19 is the disease.
Corona virus is a type of virus. Corona viruses have been around a long time. Most corona viruses are named "the common cold". They usually produce mild symptoms.
Resistance to corona viruses
People who contract a corona virus and get better develop immunity to that particular strain of virus.
The body learns how to combat it and never gets sick from it again. This is basic science and history. We cannot rewrite reality.
I am not aware of any evidence that adequately explains how the SARS-COV-2 virus is different from other corona viruses in regard to resistance.
Therefore if you get it, you cannot get it again. If anyone can explain why this virus is different in this regard, please let me know.
I think anyone who already contracted the virus and survived should be treated as if they received a vaccine. They have a similar amount of resistance.
Numbers: 91% of people infected have antibodies after 6 months. If you are in the 9%, you can benefit from the vaccine.
100% of people who got the vaccine had antibodies after 4 months (the longest study so far).
Clearly the vaccine is more reliable at producing antibodies. I believe that is due to the quantity of virus material.
Origin of SARS-COV-2
The virus was first discovered in bats in Wuhan China 2013. It was discovered there in humans in 2019.
It could have entered the general population from bats because the previous 2 SARS related diseases came to humans that way.
Others show evidence that it could have only come from the virus lab that found it. It was not in the wild before that.
The researchers in Wuhan were warning people against this possibility but that does not mean it wasn't started there.
I don't care enough to worry about how it got here. It's here and now we have to deal with it.
Cause of death
When a person dies, the cause of death is documented, and any existing co-morbidities are also documented.
(A co-morbidity is a condition a person has in addition to the cause of death that may have contributed to the death
or could be a cause of death on its own in some cases).
The cause of death is generally documented as the last thing the person got that "pushed them over the edge" into death.
For instance, my step father died of the flu in the hospital but did not enter the hospital with that condition.
He had a heart condition, diabetes, and more recently, pneumonia.
Obviously he would most likely not have died of the flu had he not had those co-morbidities, but that does not make the diagnosis incorrect.
The flu was the last thing he got that he actually died of.
Some people don't like attributing so many deaths to COVID-19 but that is just the way these events are recorded.
I would love to know the statistics around what percentage of COVID-19 deaths that were without co-morbidities and for those that had them,
which ones contributed the most or were most common.
It has been mentioned that obesity, and COPD are common co-morbidities
(and therefore contribute to raising the risk for a person).
There was a policy in some organizations to put Covid-19 as the cause of death if the patient had Covid-19 at the point of death regardless of the symptoms.
This was controversial but the thinking there was that it was most likely the most recent symptom.
It's unlikely that someone gets a heart condition AFTER getting Covid-19, right?
The exception is things like accidents. If someone is hit by a car and they have Covid, it is probably not Covid that killed them.
Listing that as a Covid death is probably not correct by I am not an expert at such things.
There may have been some motivation to make the tracking of Covid related deaths more visible by making them the primary cause.
Awareness
Never before have I seen any disease tracked as closely at this one.
We do not have good context to compare with other diseases and other causes of death.
We may have a good idea how many people died from Covid but do we have a good idea how many people died from heart disease?
How about cancer? Why don't we have a running count on how many people died from the flu?
Just having more visible information on this particular disease has caused a great deal of angst, in my opinion.
Risk factors
Documented risk factors for death from COVID-19 are
- Older age
- cancer
- asthma
- COPD
- obesity
- dementia
- heart condition
- HIV
- liver disease
- sickle cell
- pregnancy
- stroke
- organ transplant
- smoker
- racial minority
- physical disability
Statistically, 80% of all COVID deaths are in people 65 and older. 90% of deaths are in people older than 45.
My belief about this is that not only are older people more frail, but that older people have more existing risk conditions from the list.
I believe the same about racial minorities and physical disabilities - meaning that it is not a primary factor but a statistical correlation.
Those two groups of people have higher incidence of the other listed factors.
I don't have access to the data to prove this, so it is just a theory at this point.
How bad is SARS-COV-2?
It is certainly much worse that the common cold. There can be additional factors beyond what the common cold brings, such as:
- Shortness of breath
- Loss of taste and smell
- Confusion
- Inability to wake from sleep or stay awake once awoken
- Chest pain
- Pale lips
I have never heard of anyone dying from the common cold but lots of people are dying from Covid-19.
The vaccines
4 kinds of vaccines: Whole virus, protein subunit, viral vector, and Nucleic.
- Whole virus vaccines use a weakened form of the actual virus to educate the immune system.
The down side is the risk the viruses are not as weak as hoped and you are given the actual virus - oops.
- Protein subunit vaccines inject only part of the virus and therefore cannot cause the actual disease.
The down side is that it may also not educate the immune system enough about what the real virus looks like and is therefore less effective.
- Viral vector vaccines use a known harmless virus as a vehicle to deliver the DNA of the spike protein producing cell directly into your cells.
In a sense, your cells are converted into factories for antibody production. This produces a strong immune response.
The down side of this is that normal healthy cells are modified to become antigen producers instead of their original role.
A second down side is that if the immune system is already immune to the virus being used as the transport vehicle, the process doesn't work.
- Nucleic vaccines work similarly to the viral vector vaccines except their DNA transport is bacterial plasmids (like a gene flash drive).
There is no risk of being immune to the RNA carrier since it is not a virus itself.
The Pfizer vaccine uses messenger RNA to deliver the antigen producing RNA to our cells.
The Moderna vaccine uses the same process.
The Johnson and Johnson shot is a viral vector shot. General medical knowledge says the side effects of this shot are smaller.
This kind of vaccine has a 64% effectiveness against the new variants also.
AstraZeneca shot is similar to the Johnson and Johnson shot, but is not available in the USA.
Novavax makes a shot using the protein subunit vaccination strategy, but that is not available in the USA yet either.
It is showing good results on the other variant strains also. Latest news predicts it will be available in Q4 of 2021.
Sinopharm/Sinovac uses the Whole Virus strategy to cause an immune reaction (see above). These are the vaccines used in China.
Wild stories/theories
I have heard unsubstantiated stories and theories about various COVID things.
- The vaccines are a way to "thin the herd" and kill people off (Bill Gates anyone?)
- The mRNA vaccines modify your DNA so they will turn you into something you don't want to be
- Weakened so you are susceptible to other diseases
- Prone to Cancer
- Monster from the Black lagoon?
- Pregnant women and their babies are dying from just one shot
- Multiple people have keeled over dead from just one shot
- The virus can cause sexual dysfunction in men
- The vaccines can cause sexual dysfunction in men
I don't think these stories are representative, predictive, and in many cases true.
I also don't have any proof they are false, so I leave them in the "very rare", unlikely, and unknown categories.
For simplicity I lump them together under a minute risk factor.
Unproved theories can be dangerous because they sway opinion without actual proof.
No so wild stories
- There are over 4000 documented cases of people getting Covid-19 AFTER receiving the vaccine (as of June 2021).
- Do all the animals die in mRNA animal trials? We don't have evidence of any concern.
There is a clarifying article in the references (#12).
- The number of deaths from vaccination have gone up 20x in the last year, largely due to the Covid shot.
Politics and more
Unfortunately the decision to get vaccinated has been conflated with politics.
Your vaccination decision is used as an indicator of your political views.
If you are Democrat you have to get vaccinated and if you are a Trump republican you should not. This kind of correlation can be deadly.
I have noticed another correlation between city dwelling and Democratic voting as well as country living being correlated with Republican voting.
The priorities of people in the country are different than people in the city for various legitimate reasons.
Also the closeness and frequency of contact varies by the density of your living space. It is obviously easier to social distance if there is more space. (see ref 16).
My experience (and bias) late 2020
- My wife and two late-teen children all got the virus at different times. I experienced them go through it and know their symptoms.
- My children had the same symptoms and impact as a common cold. They were over it in 2 days and had very mild symptoms.
Only the COVID test gave us the knowledge that they were positive. We would not have known otherwise.
- My wife (in her 40s) had loss of taste, headaches, and cold symptoms. It also took more like 6 days to get over it, instead of 2.
- I was exposed to all three of these family members around the time of their tests and did not contract it myself. Perhaps it was too early or too mild an exposure.
- I know of 4 people who died of COVID who are related to someone in my social circle (friends, acquaintances, family, co-workers, etc.).
- Just about everyone who received the mRNA based vaccinations had to skip work 1-2 days due to severe fatigue and "cold-like" symptoms.
- I saw significant mental stress due to Covid in more than one person in my social circle.
Some with lasting health effects (and I don't mean from GETTING the virus,
I mean the social impact from the way the situation was handled by various government entities and businesses).
- I don't like shots, vaccinations, medicines, or the medical profession in general. The less I interact with them the better I like my life.
My estimations
- I don't have any of the known risk factors.
- I estimate my chance of severe symptoms from COVID to be under 2%.
- I estimate my chance of getting COVID eventually to be 20%.
- I estimate my chance of having severe fatigue from the second shot (if I get it) to be 95% or greater.
- I estimate my chance of getting cold-like symptoms from the vaccine to be 98%.
- I estimate my chance of getting COVID AFTER the second shot to be less than 2%.
- I estimate my chance of having severe symptoms from the vaccination to be less than 1%
My decision
- Given my experience, my lack of risk factors, and my current knowledge of the vaccine effects I have decided to
delay getting the vaccine.
- My risk of having severe symptoms is less than 1% regardless of whether or not I get the vaccination
but my risk of having "cold-like" symptoms is much higher with the vaccine than without it.
- I have not had anything worse than the common cold in more than 10 years.
- I believe I have been living a "socially distant" lifestyle for a long time. :-)
- There is some likelihood I will get the NovaVax when it comes out.
- As a last ditch option I may eventually get the Johnson and Johnson single shot option.
J & J appears to be my best option in the USA as of August 2021 but the Novavax option may be a better choice
later in the year.
- If my situation changes I may choose to get a vaccine earlier.
- If I get any risk factors or other new variants cause me to worry, I may seek it out.
- Also, if the government chooses to ignore rational science and go with mob/majority rule I may be forced to
take a vaccine anyway. Hopefully I will have the right to make the decision about which kind
of vaccine I take.
- Ironically, even though my other family members are more protected against the virus than I am,
they may be forced to get the vaccine while I am not, due to their participation in various school settings.
Updates
July 2021 there were multiple articles about how the incidence of Covid cases dropped BEFORE the vaccines had a chance to work
and that the Alpha and Delta variants were supposed to be worse but that prediction didn't pan out. (reference #13)
99.5% of the people dying from Covid are unvaccinated (reference 15).
This is not surprising to me, but it may also not apply to me since the majority of people dying from the disease have at least one risk factor.
September 2021: Half of the people I know who got Covid and ended up in the hospital had one of the shots already.
I recognize there is probably a bias where more than half of my circle of acquainences had a Covid vaccination,
but it's still interesting experience as a bystander.
My son had to get a shot in order to stay in college (even though he already had the virus).
I encouraged him to get the J & J shot and he did. He experienced chills at 12 hours, a headache at 24 hours and
was back to normal within 48 hours. This makes me consider getting that same shot.
I still prefer a traditional vaccine but I might not have a choice eventually.
October 2021: My wife got an anti-body test which showed she sill had antibodies in her system after 11 months.
She is being forced to take Covid tests every week by her school (which are always negative of course).
President Biden had a speech (ref #20) pushing schools and most companies require vaccination or fire people.
In New York state they fired a number of health care workers. I have not seen an article that will state
an exact number, but it is hundereds of people because at least Erie County suspended 176 employees (See ref #21).
A study confirm that my son's experience is typical (getting chills after getting the shot after geting covid). (#23)
October 2021 we find out more definitively that natural immunity is effective as reducing the risk of re-infection. (#22 and #23)
Joy has been saying this for a long time and now people are becoming more open to admiting it is true.
Late 2021 I heard of a sudy showing elevated risk of heart Myocarditis in young men (which would include my son).
(ref #25). What is interesting is that Myocarditis is more common after someone actually gets a virus.
In January 2022 I got the J&J shot. Let me tell you why.
- The wife of a friend of mine is a nurse teacher and interacts with lots of nurses.
She said from her experience, the people with the worst symptoms in the hospital are unvaccintaed.
- The wife of another friend works on a Covid ward as a nurse and deals with patients every day.
She said in her experience the cases tend to be genetically related. One family will have no symptoms and
another family will all die of it, one after the other. She also suggested taking a shot was a good idea.
- I am older than other people in my family (over 50) and therefore more a risk.
- I am not genetically related to my wife and therefore cannot guarantee I will have the same reaction she had.
And, frankly, I was not too thrilled with the reaction she had. I would like to avoid her experience.
- A friend of mine told me he did extensive research and believed the shots would not hurt him. He has multiple
contacts in the medical field and I trusted his advice (some). After 20+ months of not hearing anything major
negative about the shots, plus multiple friends having no side effects (including my son), I thought his
conclusion was reasonable (but not conclusive).
- The data on outcomes in the hospital seemed compelling. People with 1 or more Covid shot had better outcomes
than people with no shots (ref #26 & 27). You could argue the data is rigged or something but I think that is accurate enough
to be compelling. This was enough to tilt my feeling towards getting a shot but not enough to
"get me off the couch" since all the factors are very small. To this day I believe I could get it or not get
it and the decision was minor. While getting the shot I told the technician I didn't really need the shot but
I was getting it anyway so I didn't have to keep saying I hadn't got one yet.
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The factor that got me "off the couch" was the fact that my workplace decided that all in-person events would
require vaccination. I have gone to lots of company events and did not want to be left out this next time
so I made the appointment. Due to circumstances, we have not actually had any in person meetings since that
decision, so it's a bit ironic.
The only effect I experienced was a strange feeling of large particles flowing through my brain for about 30 minutes.
It's strange to think you can feel much of anything INSIDE your brain, but that's what I experienced.
I did not get chills and I did not get tired. It was basically a normal day.
Now, for psychological reasons, I am sensitive to anything I feel in my heart and my brain these days.
If I get a headache, I wonder if it is releated to the shot. If I get a heart palpitation I wonder if it is related
to the shot. I had these things before as well, of course, and I am getting older so I expect them to increse
naturally, but I still have the tendency to be sensitive to them due to the relationships ascribed. Oh well.
A friend of mine heard I got the shot and sent me to the "how bad" website to see how much risk I was taking
(since apparently) the risk is different per batch due to formulation differences. According to that site, I had a
very low risk batch, which is nice. (See ref #28)
Questions
What questions or concerns did I not address? Please let me know so I can enhance this article.
References
- WHO technical guidance
- Covid conditions
- CDC corona virus info
- Common cold
- can you get the same cold twice?
- CDC
coronavirus risks
- minority health
- The book: COVID-19: The Pandemic that Never Should Have Happened and How to Stop the Next One (didn't read)
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Vaccine types
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Nucleic vaccines
- Yale vaccine comparison
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mRNA animal trials
- NYT delta
mysteries
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male infertility
- the
unvaccinated
- how
news impactes decisions
- vaccination
after contraction
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Novavax progress
- Novavax
USA
- Biden
speech
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Workers fired
- doses
the same
- Natural
immunity
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Comparison natural vs vaccination
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Heart Myocarditis in young men
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Comparison vax vs. non for hospializations and deaths NY Times
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Comparison vax vs. non for hospializations and deaths KPC news
- How bad is your batch?
- Relative risk
by age groups